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I've updated my folder by adding my Muro Roots from the Sauz de los
Marquez, Jalisco area:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/13828

joseph

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Joseph Puentes
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http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Hola a todos los miembros de nuestros ranchos, me gustaria saber si ustedes tienen conocimiento de este matrimonio ya que no e podido encotrar nada, agradecere mucho si alguien me puede ayudar

Nestor Soto o Zoto 1866-1938
Demetria Macias 18??-1971
Fidel Ramos ????-????
Maria Vega ????-????

Maurilio Gomez ????-1984
Jesus Ordorica Olmos 1904?- 1941

Si alguien los tienes talvez se podria juntar nuestras familias.

muchas gracias!!

Victor

Hi - I found some baptismal records of my great-great grandfather, and they
said he was from "La Fabrica" close to Guadalupe, Zacatecas, I think. Has
anyone heard of this? Is it a colonia or a rancho in Zacatecas?

Arturo,

I finally was able to bring up that letter of 1591 from the Viceroy Luis de Velasco to the King, but it has eight pages. It is beautifully written and so legible after all those years, but I have trouble reading that Spanish. In which of the eight pages is the mention of his visit to the caravan of the Tlaxcalan families?

Thanks,

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

Bermeo and Flores are the surnames that I have been able to trace to my
"Tlaxcalteco" roots. I have been able to go as far back to a marriage that
took place in Villa de Gegedo in 1762, where it states that the parents of
Thomas Bermeo and Juana Flores were originally from Nadadores and were
"indios tlacaltecos".

It appears that Thomas had a brother (Lucas) who was married to Maria
Andrea Flores - the brothers may have married sisters.

The parents of Thomas and Lucas Bermea were Gaspar Bermeo and Ma.
Candelaria de los Rios married about 1742 in Nadadores, Coahuila.

Because of what was mentioned in Thomas' marriage certificate, I am making
the assumption that "Rios" was also a surname used by my Tlaxcaltecan
roots.

I don't know if this helps anyone...but it just might help.

The other son, Lucas Bermeo who was married to married to Maria Andrea
Flores on Feb. 15,1768 in Villa de Gigedo

The mission settlement "Dulce Nombre de Jesús de Peyotes", later became as
Villa de Rosales and Villa de Gigedo, now known as Villa Union, Coahuila..

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Their parents were Gaspar Bermeo and Ma. Candelaria de los Rios married
about 1742.

On the marriage record of Thomas Bermeo and Juana Flores it is mentioned
that They were "indios tlaxcaltecos" and their parents origin was
Nadadores,Coahuila, this is a small town close to Cuatro Cienegas.

Hola a todos,
Estoy investigando el apellido Areizaga/Arizaga. Uno de Los registros mas
antiguos que he encontrado es el de matrimonio de VICENTE ARIZAGA DEL RIO
(Espanol) con MARIA THERESA NUNEZ NAVARRO, (Espanola) el 20 de Enero de 1785
en La Barca Jalisco Mexico. Los padres de Vicente fueron: Francisco Arizaga
y Manuela del Rio y estan anotados como "vecinos del pueblo."
Vicente tubo un hermano que se llamo: Josef Antonio Arizaga del Rio y caso
con Maria Ygnacia Rico el 20 de Noviembre de 1799 en La Barca Jalisco Mexico
El tambien esta anotado como "vecino de este pueblo." Hasta hoy no e podido
encontrar ningun dato acerca de donde nacieron o de donde llegaron. Estoy
buscando en Guanajuato San Luis Potosi y Michoacan y aunque e encontrado
muchos Arizaga, No he encontrado a Francisco, Vicente o Josef Antonio
alrededor de esas fechas.
Gracias por anticipado por cualquier informacion que me puedan otorgar.
Eva

To: all members of Nuestros Ranchos

Te following excerpts are from a letter I sent to the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, UT in August of 2008. It contains important information for those focusing their research in Aguascalientes. Since I didn't get a reply or noticed any corrective action taken, I decided to post it in this forum for the benefit of all members of Nuestros Ranchos.

"For several years I had been trying to find the baptismal record of my 4th great grandfather Vicente Ruiz de Esparza, but soon realized that it was missing. As a matter of fact, all the baptisms of “Españoles” from 1719-1733 from “Parroquia de la Asunción de Aguascalientes” seemed to be missing. I searched over and over for these records, carefully combing through a number of microfilms, to no avail. Finally, in desperation, I decided to take a trip to Aguascalientes in central Mexico (I live in Texas) to find out if the book had been lost or never filmed by the LDS."

"The original records are kept by the Catholic Church in a building adjacent to the Cathedral. Unfortunately, these records are not accessible to the public, as the Church is trying to preserve them for future generations. An exception was made in my case, considering that I had embarqued in such a long journey to look for a specific record. It took the librarian less than 30 minutes to locate the record, which he found in an “insert” with records for the 1781-1786 time period. The following paragraphs will explain what happened."

"Sometime during the late 19th or early 20th century the Catholic Church in Aguascalientes decided to organize hundreds of records by rebinding them with new hardcovers. The number on the original volumes, numbered sequentially #1 thru ?? was displayed on the spine of the new books. It is important to mention that in colonial times the records for descendants of Spaniards or “Españoles” were kept in separate books from those of “Indios, Negros, Mulatos, Mestizos, Castizos...etc.” Record Book #12 consisted of baptisms for “Españoles” for the years 1719-1733. This book was inadvertedly left out and later bound with books #39-43 which were for baptisms for the years 1781-1786. This book covers the periods 1781-1733 and 1719-1733 as shown on the enclosed pictures." (not included here)

"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Days Saints’ crew that microfilmed these records in the 1970s must have realized that they were out of order because they kept them separate. The records for 1781-1786 are included in microfilm #299445. The baptisms for “Españoles” for 1719-1733 ended up in microfilm #299530, erroneously identified as being from La Cieneguilla. La Cieneguilla is a rural community and farming area some 20 miles SW of Aguascalientes."

"The baptismal records for 1719-1733 have been extracted and recently included in the new FamilySearch Pilot site, improperly identifying each record as being from La Cieneguilla instead of Aguascalientes. This is very confusing and should be corrected."

"I have found other errors that I plan to report separately, but do not include them in this letter to keep it simple. If you have any questions do not hesitate to contact me."

Regards,

BILL FIGUEROA

I just found a great find through doing some google.com.mx searches this past weekend in relation to Imperial Orders of Mexico. It appears that there was an Almanaque Imperial produced during the reign of Maximiliano y Carlota. The one I found was from the year 1866, when Imperial control reached its full extent in Mexico.

There is a wealth of information, especially names to be found. Among them is military information that seems so hard for many of us to get to. For example, the comisarios imperiales are listed. The area we are looking into was divided between the Tercera Division, its capital being San Luis Potosi. The area, while including San Luis Potosi also included Fresnillo, which i'm guessing encompassed the northern half of Zacatecas. The rest of Zacatecas, Aguascalientes, Jalisco, Colima and Nayarit among other area's were under the Cuarta Division, its capital being Guadalajara.

Departamentos del Imperio are also listed. Breaking it down from the prefect of the region, to the subprefects of the various cities of those regions.

I also have a seperate list, but also overlaps in many places with the almanaque imperial, of those knighted during the Second Mexican Empire from these three states. I collected this list from a book I had just learned about called Genealogias de Familias Antiguas Mexicanos, published in 1908.

I intend to post up these in the files section. I didn't post a link as the almanac is scattered throughout google in pdf format, although I can post some links if anyone wants to look through that whole book. The Genealogias book, which is actually 3 seperate and large books, I looked through it in person at the special collections section at my university.

Estoy investigando el apellido Pro de Zacatecas,
al parecer dedicados a la mineria, el registro mas antiguo que tengo es el nacimiento de Alberto Pro Romo abril de 1861 en la Cd. de Zacatecas, hijo de Hilario Pro (1836) y Ricarda Romo (1839) mucho agradeceré si alguien se ha topado con este apellido.

I have uploaded a large number of batch numbers for Coahuila and Nuevo Leon to the films database on Nuestros Ranchos. Given that many Nuestros Ranchos members have ancestry in those states, particularly those whose families ended up in Texas, I think these should be very useful to the membership.

If you have any films from those states on permanent loan, please go into the database and indicate so. I will try to get San Luis Potosi and some other northern states into the database in the near future as well.

ESPANOL

He subido una gran cantidad de números batch de Coahuila y Nuevo León a la base de datos de peliculas en Nuestros Ranchos. Dado que muchos miembros de Nuestros Ranchos tienen ascendencia en esos estados, en particular aquellos cuyas familias terminaron en Texas, creo que seran bastante utiles para la membresia.

Si usted tiene alguna película de esos estados en préstamo permanente, favor de entrar a la base de datos e indicarlo. Voy a tratar de montar numeros de San Luis Potosí y algunos otros estados del norte en la base de datos en el futuro cercano.

Jose Francisco Carlos Godoy nació en Jerez de Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas, Mexico.
-Jose se casó con -Nicolaza Rodarte. -Nicolaza nació en Jerez de Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas, Mexico.
Jose Lucio Camargo nació en Zacatecas.
-Jose se casó con -Romana Anzures. -Romana nació en Zacatecas
.Franco Victoriano Herrera nació en Momax, Zacatecas, Mexico y tuvo su bautismo infantil en Momax, Zacatecas, Mexico. Él murió en 1790 en Momax, Zacatecas, Mexico.
-Franco se casó con -Maria Quirina Lopes el 3 Enero 1819 en Momax, Zacatecas, Mexico. -Maria nació en Momax, Zacatecas, Mexico y tuvo su bautismo infantil en Momax, Zacatecas, Mexico. Ella murió en 1795 en Momax, Zacatecas, Mexico.
Agustin Prudencio Del Muro nació en Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico y tuvo su bautismo infantil en Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico. Él murió en Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico.
-Agustin se casó con -Maria Antonia de Lamas. -Maria nació en Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico y tuvo su bautismo infantil en Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico. Ella murió en Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico.
Francisco Cardona nació en Aguascalientes, Mexico.
-Francisco se casó con -Luisa Gonsales. -Luisa nació en Aguascalientes, Mexico.
Jose Maria Rojas nació aproximadamente en 1825 en District Of Jerez, Zacatecas Mexico.
-Jose se casó con -Melquiades Parra. -Melquiades nació aproximadamente en 1828 en District Of Jerez, Zacatecas Mexico.
Felix Correa.
-Felix se casó con -Antonia de la torre.
Jose Deciderio Rodarte nació en Jerez de Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas, Mexico.
-Jose se casó con -Maria de La Luz Acevedo. -Maria nació en Jerez de Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas, Mexico.
Jose Miguel Pinedo1 nació en Jerez de Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas, Mexico y tuvo su bautismo infantil en Jerez de Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas, Mexico.
-Jose se casó con -Maria Candelaria Cabrera2. -Maria nació en Jerez de Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas, Mexico.
-Lazaro De la cueva y Carbajal.
-Lazaro se casó con -Juana Lopez 7 jynio 1732.
-Anastacio Mercado.
-Anastacio se casó con -Polonia Rivas.
Manuel Ortiz.
-Manuel se casó con -Juana Ubillos.

I wanted to thank the person who suggested that we email the following email (archivo@mail.sedena.gob.mx) for information about relatives who served in the Mexican military. I sent an email on July 31 and got a response back today that indicated they do have such information on my ancestor.

While my Spanish isn't that great, I think the letter says that it authorizes me to see the actual records in Mexico city, and take a digital photo of them, but not a photocopy because they are too delicate. Did anyone else get a response like this? While I'm excited about this new potential source of information because I thought the trail on my Pineda line had gone cold, I'm not really in a position to fly to Mexico city just to look at these documents. Any suggestions?

In case anyone else is interested, the person in question is named Pedro Pineda, my great-great grandfather in or near Tlaltenango, Zacatecas; he was born about 1851. I think the letter says he was a major in the Mexican military. Thanks!

Chris Pineda, MPP, JD

What is my password?

Gregory Schaaf
Indians@nets.com
Santa Fe

On Jan 24, 2010, at 4:06 PM, research-
request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org wrote:

Out of the office.

My paternal ggg grandparents were from Magdalena , Jalisco are . This is what I know Luis Hernandez B:1794 married Maria Ascension Robles B:1798 in the church of Magdalena , Jalisco on May 29 1819 . It also said that Luis was the son of a " Padrino Conocido " and Maria Virgen B:1774 . Luis and Maria had a son named Concepcion B:1835 married Juana Banuelos B:1840 on October 23 1858 in Parroquia de Magdalena , Jalisco . I have a photo copy of the "acta de matrimonio" . Concepcion and Juana had a son named Doroteo B:1862 married Juana Sanchez B:1866 on April 24 1882 . Doroteo and Juana had a son named Agapito B: Sep.20,1892 married Soledad Guerrero B:1899 on March 03 1917 . Agapito and Soledad had a son named Arturo B:July 15 1934 married Encarnacion Rubio B:March 25 , 1935 on April 06 1952 . Last names of paternal side not listed Garcia and Becerra . Paternal maternal names not listed Diaz , Aranda , Gutierrez , Rodriguez , Bobadilla and Pinedo . Any information on the "Padrino Conocido" would be appreciated .

Hola compañeros,

Busco información de HERNANDO MARTEL, originario de Sevilla, quien fuera regidor y alcalde ordinario de Guadalajara y fundador de Lagos. Me interesa saber quienes fueron su esposa e hijos, pero cualquier información será de utilidad. Saludos a todos y de antemano muchísimas gracias.

BILL FIGUEROA

Out of the office.

I remember reading an article from a fellow genealogist that found the documentation in utah when he studied the genealogical tables/history of the meNdoza family. Unfortunately he did not give specific details as to the source, just that it was in the library in utah.
------Original Message------
From: Daniel Mendez de Camino y Soto
Sender: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
To: Patty Hoyos
ReplyTo: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nicolas Macias&Josefa de Alvarado andThomas Macias-Maria Lopez de Lizalde
Sent: Jan 20, 2010 9:25 PM

Has anyone ever found the source for Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza's parents? I dont know how Jose Luis Vasquezcame to that conclusion, I dont disregard it but just wonder the source. I have studied the Mendoza family,undoubtfully one of the most important families in all of Nueva Galicia. I have Genealogias de Nochistlan (thanksto a good friend) and it says Inigo Lopez de Mendoza and Maria Laso de Mendoza were ambos de Nochistlan.So they actually did live in Nochistlan according to the book. Even don Mariano Gonzalez Leal is still puzzledat this line, we still cannot trace or connect our Mendoza to those of Spain with full documentation, probdue to the lack of records in the early years of the colony. Any comments?
-Daniel

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I am reaching out to the group as I am at a dead end. I am trying to find the parents of Mariano Romo through IGI Marrige, the best I was able to fine was a marriage of there children-Manuel and Simona who were wed on the same day! Anyone with some help or direction would be appreciated.

Manuel Romo
Caquistle
Parents
Father:Mariano Romo
Mother: Paula Reyes
Spoce: Carlota Beltran
Marriage: 15NOV 1884 Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
Batch:M602696 Source:11555000 Type: Film

Simona Romo
Caquistle
Father:Mariano Romo
Mother: Paula Reyes
Spoce: Simon Beltran
Marriage: 15NOV 1884 Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
Batch:M602696 Source:11555000 Type: Film

Hola a todos, nada mas para saludarlos, e invitarlos a ver mi carpeta donde agregue algunos nombres, haciendolo con el mejor de mi criterio, que no dudo habra talvez algun error, nombre de carpeta:  Celestino Villalobos. Afectuosamente.

English:

To everybody researching roots in spain:

Just to share a New link that I just found, which I think is going to help a lot in our group and those looking for genealogy in Spain:

I wish it could be included in our list of links here at Nuestros Ranchos.

http://www.fundacionmedinaceli.org

Is just wonderful to se all the gedcoms included in this library..
hope it helps!!

Saludos!!!

Español:

A todos los que investigan linajes en España:

Solo para compartirles este nuevo link que encontre navegando la red, el cual creo que les puede ayudar a todos en el grupo investigando genealogia en España:

Espero pueda ser incluido en nuestra lista de ligas aqui en Nuestros Ranchos

http://www.fundacionmedinaceli.org

Es increible la cantidad de informacion y de gedcoms incluida en esta investigacion
ojala les sirva!!

Saludos!!!

Hello,

The requested info is attached.

Thanks,
Julie

Direct Link: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18354
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Your folder in the files area has been created and can be accessed by going
to "files" and "Last Name, First Name". Please send in your introduction to
research@nuestrosranchos.org with this direct link:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18354

Su carpeta en el area de los archivos se ha creado y puede ser acceso yendo
al "files" y "Apellido, Primer Nombre". Envie por favor en su introduccion a
research@nuestrosranchos.org con este enlace:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18354

joseph

Necesito un consejo. La acata de mi abuela Elena Gonzales Torres no exsiste. Able con el registro civil de Guanajuato y despues de mucha busqueda me dijieron que mi abula nunca fue registrada. Que puedo aser en esta occaion?

Gracias

Hola a todos soy nueva en esto,mi nombre es Gloria Noemi Casillas y quiero compartir lo poco que hemos encontrado ya que he tenido la fortuna de contar con la ayuda de un amigo en mi investigacion y aprovecho para agradecerle su tiempo a Ruben Casillas Moreno y espero le sirva a alguna persona como punto de partida y de paso encontrar parientes lejanos. Aun sigo investigando a mi familia por parte de los Casillas: el Ancestro mas lejano hasta el momento es Francisco Casillas casado en 1718 con Dorotea Ephigenia Dias

Entonces mi genealogia a partir de el seria

Francisco Casillas casado con Dorotea Ephigenia Dias Cruz en 1718 en Ayo el Chico
Hijos:Crespin, Manuel Antonio

Manuel Antonio Casillas Dias casado con Maria Gregoria Ruiz Villaseñor en 1762 en Guad, Jal
Hijos:Juana de Dios,Antonio Luciano,Jose Hipolito Casiano

Antonio Luciano Casillas Ruiz casado con Juana Acencia Hernandez en 1788 en Guad,Jal
Hijos: (aun no encuentro descendencia)
Antonio Luciano Casillas Ruiz casado con Maria Brigida Ybarra Castellano en 1804 en Guad,Jal
Hijos: Josef Pablo de Jesus,Jose, Magdalena

Josef Pablo de Jesus Casillas Ybarra casado con Guadalupe Nuñez Rodriguez en 1831 en Guad,Jal
Hijos: Juan Climaco

Juan Climaco Casillas Nuñez casado con telesfora Ruesga Reynoso en 1856 en Guad,Jal
Hijos: Visenta,Pablo,Maria Cesaria,Maria Telesfora
Juan Climaco Casillas Nuñez Casado con Francisca Robles Lopez en 1883 en Guad,Jal
Hijos: Jose Juan Francisco

Jose Juan Francisco Casillas Robles casado Francisca Limon Gomez en 1906, Guad,Jal
Hijos: Maria del Carmen,Carlos,Dolores, Maria Luisa, Juan Francisco

Juan Francisco Casillas Limon casado con Maria Teresa Sanchez Coronado en 1945, Guad,Jal
Hijos:Jose de Jesus,Salvador Alejandro,Maria Teresa,Maria Dolores,Vicente

Salvador Alejandro Casillas sanchez casado con maria de los Angeles Ocegueda Murguia en 1974 en Guad, Jal.

Sigo investigando y espero encontrar mas ancestros.