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26 March 2006---Ranchos Yahoo Closing in 5 days

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The Yahoo Group: Ranchos will be closing on 31 March 2005



After that time the message email distribution functionality for the
YAHOO group will be discontinued. In it's place is the beautiful site
that Arturo Ramos, our webmaster, has built: http://nuestrosranchos.org



If you haven't requested a password for the site go here and follow the
following instructions:



http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/13819


Please DO NOT create a
new account. Your account is already
set up with your YahooGroups userid but you will have to request a new
password in order to log in. The new password will be sent to the email
registerd on your YahooGroups account and once you receive your
password you can log and change it to whatever they like. In order to
do this:

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Coins of The Realm

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I found these old coins while on vacation in Teocaltiche and Jalostotitlán, Jalisco last year. I think this is one important subject that we have not talked about in the forum, MONEY! The coins are located in the John Gonzalez file.

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Published by oldcar53 – Wed, 2006-03-22 19:24 | Permalink

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Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
John,

How did you find the coins? Did you buy them or excavate them? Was the square coin part of the common currency or was it manufactured by and for the use of one individual or by the state of Zacatecas. Did you get any historical background regarding these coins? Very interesting photos and new topic for discussion.

Alicia de San Jose, Ca

Published by gnzlzspd – Wed, 2006-03-22 19:00 | Permalink

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I found these old coins while on vacation in Teocaltiche and Jalostotitlán, Jalisco last year. I think this is one important subject that we have not talked about in the forum, MONEY! The coins are located in the John Gonzalez file.

Comment

Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
John,

How did you find the coins? Did you buy them or excavate them? Was the square coin part of the common currency or was it manufactured by and for the use of one individual or by the state of Zacatecas. Did you get any historical background regarding these coins? Very interesting photos and new topic for discussion.

Alicia de San Jose, Ca

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I moved the coins to the Albums area of the the New site. Look in the
folder called "John Gonzalez". . .John I hope you don't mind but I added
some pictures of my own. John's pictures are the two that are 4 coins in
a row. My pictures are of a 1793 1/2 Real coin that I bought because my
GGG grandfathers were born in 1793 and my GGGG grandparents: Justo
Puente and Josefa Sanchez were married in that Year as well in
Sombrerete, Zacatecas. I only own the 1793 coin. the 1780 and 1798 are
shown only so you can get an idea of what the coin looked like new. Of
course the 1780 was different in that it showed a different King and the
1798 was different as well, but they give you an idea.

joseph

gnzlzspd wrote:

>I found these old coins while on vacation in Teocaltiche and Jalostotitlán, Jalisco last year. I think this is one important subject that we have not talked about in the forum, MONEY! The coins are located in the John Gonzalez file.

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Joseph,
I am having trouble logging into the new website. Can you please help me.

Gracias,
Maria Elena Uhlenburg
916-220-2718

Joseph Puentes wrote: I moved the coins to the Albums area of the the New site. Look in the
folder called "John Gonzalez". . .John I hope you don't mind but I added
some pictures of my own. John's pictures are the two that are 4 coins in
a row. My pictures are of a 1793 1/2 Real coin that I bought because my
GGG grandfathers were born in 1793 and my GGGG grandparents: Justo
Puente and Josefa Sanchez were married in that Year as well in
Sombrerete, Zacatecas. I only own the 1793 coin. the 1780 and 1798 are
shown only so you can get an idea of what the coin looked like new. Of
course the 1780 was different in that it showed a different King and the
1798 was different as well, but they give you an idea.

joseph

gnzlzspd wrote:

>I found these old coins while on vacation in Teocaltiche and Jalostotitlán, Jalisco last year. I think this is one important subject that we have not talked about in the forum, MONEY! The coins are located in the John Gonzalez file.

Archives in Mexico: General Info

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latina1955@aol.com wrote:

http://www.genealogia.org.mx/home/default.asp
 
I am wondering if anyone knows of this site??
 
Esperanza

It is a great site packed with information. the list owner: Benicio Samuel Sanchez Garcia is a new member of
Ranchos.



Señor Sanchez Garcia,



cuando tienes oportunidad puedes darnos una introduccion de su grupo: www.genealogia.org.mx




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Films Now Available on Nuestros Ranchos

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I have now added the film database to the new Nuestros Ranchos website.

The functionality is still in the works. Users cannot yet add films to the database themselves, but that functionality is on its way... I will try to get to it this weekend.

Comments

Published by arturoramos – Thu, 2006-03-23 09:56 | Permalink

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I have set up the functionality for people to add films to the database. Remember, we are including films that either: (1) You have on indefinite loan at your local FHC; or (2) for which you have confirmed a batch number in IGI or VRI. In order to add such a film:

1. Click on the "Films" menu item at the top of the page.

2. Click on the state corresponding to the location of the film you want to add (at this point you can only add films for municipalities in Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes).

3. If there are already films for the municipality, click on the name of the municipality. You will be taken to a list of films for the municipality. Make sure that the film is not yet in the database. If it is not, click on "Add Film" at the bottom of the page.

4. If there are no films for the municipality, select it from the drop-down menu at the bottom of the page for the state and click on "Add Film"

5. Fill in the information making sure to follow the format for the films already in the database. If you have confirmed that the film is indexed in VRI or IGI, click on the corresponding checkbox and enter a batch number.

Published by wixaritori (not verified) – Fri, 2006-03-17 16:27 | Permalink

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Arturo,

This is a great addition to the new Nuestros Ranchos site!
I don't mean to be ungrateful to yahoo or anything but for me there's no comparison with the things you can do on your own. A thing I particularly like is getting rid of so many ads and the promotion trailers posted at the end of every yahoo email.

My sincere congratulations.

Victor

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I have set up the functionality for people to add films to the database. Remember, we are including films that either: (1) You have on indefinite loan at your local FHC; or (2) for which you have confirmed a batch number in IGI or VRI. In order to add such a film:

1. Click on the "Films" menu item at the top of the page.

2. Click on the state corresponding to the location of the film you want to add (at this point you can only add films for municipalities in Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes).

3. If there are already films for the municipality, click on the name of the municipality. You will be taken to a list of films for the municipality. Make sure that the film is not yet in the database. If it is not, click on "Add Film" at the bottom of the page.

4. If there are no films for the municipality, select it from the drop-down menu at the bottom of the page for the state and click on "Add Film"

5. Fill in the information making sure to follow the format for the films already in the database. If you have confirmed that the film is indexed in VRI or IGI, click on the corresponding checkbox and enter a batch number.

Comment

Arturo this is great. We need to establish this as something we will
accept volunteers to do RIGHT AFTER we fully make the transition.

General message to ALL:
There are over 50% of you that haven't retrieved your passwords from the
http://nuestrosranchos.org site. That means that in 8 days you'll be on
the outside looking in. We need to get with this transition and get
moved over to the new site. So if you are wanting to use the great
features like this batch number database you will need to get moved over
to the new site. If you are totally lost on how to do this email me
PRIVATELY at makas@nc.rr.com and I'll help you or go to
http://nuestrosranchos.org/node/13819 for very easy to follow and
detailed instructions.

Arturo when there is time can you add these instructions to the Film
area so people can quickly get up to speed on adding their films. I see
the possibility that we can have all the batch numbers available for
Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes uploaded in the database. . .what
a great research tool that would be. Thanks Arturo

joseph

arturoramos wrote:

>I have set up the functionality for people to add films to the database. Remember, we are including films that either: (1) You have on indefinite loan at your local FHC; or (2) for which you have confirmed a batch number in IGI or VRI. In order to add such a film:
>
>1. Click on the "Films" menu item at the top of the page.
>
>2. Click on the state corresponding to the location of the film you want to add (at this point you can only add films for municipalities in Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes).
>
>3. If there are already films for the municipality, click on the name of the municipality. You will be taken to a list of films for the municipality. Make sure that the film is not yet in the database. If it is not, click on "Add Film" at the bottom of the page.
>
>4. If there are no films for the municipality, select it from the drop-down menu at the bottom of the page for the state and click on "Add Film"
>
>5. Fill in the information making sure to follow the format for the films already in the database. If you have confirmed that the film is indexed in VRI or IGI, click on the corresponding checkbox and enter a batch number.
>

Published by oldcar53 – Fri, 2006-03-17 14:32 | Permalink

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Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
Arturo,
Here are the batch numbers for the films you have for Nochistlan de Mejia sent in by Deena Ortiz.
226726, 1736-1762, M606257
226727, 1762-1779, M606258
226728, 1776-1807, M606259
226729, 1907-1824, M606268
226730, 1824-1841, M606261
226731, 1841-1855, M606262
226732, 1856-1866, M606263
226733, 1867-1874, M606264
226734, 1874-1880, M606265

Thanks for all your hard work, the site is fantastic.

Alicia

Comment

Thank you Alicia for those batch numbers on the films.

If anybody else has a list of batch numbers that you have confirmed are functional either in IGI or VRI, please let me know and I will upload them. Soon you will be able to go in and put in the information into the database yourself.

Also, if you have films at your local Family History Center and would not mind doing an occasional lookup for another member, please let me know so that we can add those films to the database as well, even if they are not indexed in IGI or VRI...

In other words, the film database will serve two purposes:

1. Allow members to do batch searches easily by simply finding the relevant film and clicking to search

2. Allow members to know if anybody in the group has a film on loan at their local FHC that might spare them having to order the film him/herself.

eBook

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TESTAMENTOS Y AUTOS DE BIENES DE DIFUNTOS DE ZACATECAS (1550-1604)

by Enciso Contreras, José

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Published by wixaritori (not verified) – Wed, 2006-03-22 20:15 | Permalink

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TESTAMENTOS Y AUTOS DE BIENES DE DIFUNTOS DE ZACATECAS (1550-1604)

by Enciso Contreras, José

@Arturo,

I tried adding the URL above in the Links section but couldn't find a way to do it. If you think the resource is useful please add it yourself.

Victor

Decide! YahooRanchos Closing Soon!

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Published by conquistador1960 – Wed, 2006-03-22 19:15 | Permalink

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Joseph,                 Can you please move my files?     Arturo

Joseph Puentes wrote:


Okay I just know that some of you are going to want to either try it yourself or let one of us move you. The Yahoo Group is closing in exactly two (2) weeks. After that time the group will be be closed to email delivery and everyone's subscription will be set to "No Mail." That means that to participate in the group you'll have to post to the new group.

Make your decision today. If you want to try yourself fine and you'll have a few more days to give it a try, but if you want one of us to move you I would like to know now. just email me
privately at makas@nc.rr.com and say "move me." [See bottom of email for the info I need if you want me to move you].

Please make your decision. (see bottom of email for that form letter with the two choices)

so far these are the folks (33 out of 109 members) that have taken the plunge and decided one way or the other. . .so if your name is not on this list you need to send me a private email at makas@nc.rr.com and make your decision:


==========================
==========================

Please choose one:

1) I'll try to move myself to the new list. . .give me some time and I'll get back to
you if unsuccessful

or

2) please move me


IF you choose number #2 here is what I need from you:

a) Your name like you'd like on your File folder

b) The email address you are currently subscribed to in Yahoo

c) Your Yahoo UserName/ID  not. . .not your password

d) Areas of research---give me the Ranchos and the Cabezera's for each Rancho.

e) Surnames of research

f) any additional files you want uploaded to your folder

==============================================

Escoja por favor uno:

1) Trataré de moverme a la lista nueva. . .deme algún tiempo y yo volveré si tengo problemas

O

2) Muévame por favor

SI usted escoge el número #2 aquí está lo que necesito de usted:

a) Su nombre como usted querría en su carpeta del Archivo

b) La dirección correo electrónico que usted es se abona actualmente a en Yahoo

c) Su Nombre del Usuario de Yahoo no
su contraseña

d) Las áreas de investigación me dan el Ranchos y el Cabezera son para cada Rancho

e) Los apellidos de investigación

f) algún archivo adicional usted quiere cargado a su carpeta





Arturo Romero

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Published by superhorrible – Mon, 2006-03-20 09:45 | Permalink

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Joseph:
 
Please move me
 
I think i am already in the new website, but my
files aren't there
 
thank you
 
susana Leniski

----- Original Message -----
From:
Joseph Puentes

To: LosRanchos
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 4:19
PM
Subject: [ranchos] Decide! YahooRanchos
Closing Soon!


Okay I just know that some of you are going to want to
either try it yourself or let one of us move you. The Yahoo Group is closing
in exactly two (2) weeks. After that time the group will be be closed to email
delivery and everyone's subscription will be set to "No Mail." That means that
to participate in the group you'll have to post to the new group.


Make your decision today. If you want to try
yourself fine and you'll have a few more days to give it a try, but if you
want one of us to move you I would like to know now. just email me
privately at makas@nc.rr.com and say "move me." [See
bottom of email for the info I need if you want me to move you].

Please
make your decision. (see bottom of email for that form letter with the two
choices)

so far these are the folks (33 out of 109 members) that have
taken the plunge and decided one way or the other. . .so if your name is not
on this list you need to send me a
private email at makas@nc.rr.com and make your
decision:


==========================
==========================

Please
choose one:

1) I'll try to move myself to the new list. . .give me
some time and I'll get back to you if unsuccessful

or

2)
please move me


IF you choose number #2 here is what I need from
you:

a) Your name like you'd like on your File folder

b) The
email address you are currently subscribed to in Yahoo

c) Your Yahoo
UserName/ID  not. . .not your password

d) Areas of
research---give me the Ranchos and the Cabezera's for each Rancho.

e)
Surnames of research

f) any additional files you want uploaded to your
folder

==============================================

Escoja
por favor uno:

1) Trataré de moverme a la lista nueva. . .deme algún
tiempo y yo volveré si tengo problemas

O

2) Muévame por favor


SI usted escoge el número #2 aquí está lo que necesito de usted:


a) Su nombre como usted querría en su carpeta del Archivo

b)
La dirección correo electrónico que usted es se abona actualmente a en Yahoo


c) Su Nombre del Usuario de Yahoo no su contraseña

d) Las
áreas de investigación me dan el Ranchos y el Cabezera son para cada Rancho


e) Los apellidos de investigación

f) algún archivo adicional
usted quiere cargado a su carpeta


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Joseph   Please move me. I tried to move myself, but I don't think it worked. My files need to be moved also.   Thank you, Roseholly



Roseholly
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/roseholly/Main.htm

I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something. I will not refuse to do the something I can do.

— Helen Keller

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Published by zendean1 – Sat, 2006-03-18 14:00 | Permalink

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Joseph;  Yes, I want you to move me to the new group.
a)  Jose Luis Macias
b)  usa20@earthlink.net
c)  Zendean1
d)  Jalisco/ Zacatecas
e)  Surnames: Macias, Ramirez, Cejas and Iniguiz
F)  ?
 
Jose L. Macias


-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Puentes
Sent: Mar 17, 2006 4:19 PM
To: LosRanchos
Subject: [ranchos] Decide! YahooRanchos Closing Soon!


Okay I just know that some of you are going to want to either try it yourself or let one of us move you. The Yahoo Group is closing in exactly two (2) weeks. After that time the group will be be closed to email delivery and everyone's subscription will be set to "No Mail." That means that to participate in the group you'll have to post to the new group.

Make your decision today. If you want to try yourself fine and you'll have a few more days to give it a try, but if you want one of us to move you I would like to know now. just email me privately at makas@nc.rr.com and say "move me." [See bottom of email for the info I need if you want me to move you].

Please make your decision. (see bottom of email for that form letter with the two choices)

so far these are the folks (33 out of 109 members) that have taken the plunge and decided one way or the other. . .so if your name is not on this list you need to send me a private email at makas@nc.rr.com and make your decision:


==========================
==========================

Please choose one:

1) I'll try to move myself to the new list. . .give me some time and I'll get back to you if unsuccessful

or

2) please move me


IF you choose number #2 here is what I need from you:

a) Your name like you'd like on your File folder

b) The email address you are currently subscribed to in Yahoo

c) Your Yahoo UserName/ID  not. . .not your password

d) Areas of research---give me the Ranchos and the Cabezera's for each Rancho.

e) Surnames of research

f) any additional files you want uploaded to your folder

==============================================

Escoja por favor uno:

1) Trataré de moverme a la lista nueva. . .deme algún tiempo y yo volveré si tengo problemas

O

2) Muévame por favor

SI usted escoge el número #2 aquí está lo que necesito de usted:

a) Su nombre como usted querría en su carpeta del Archivo

b) La dirección correo electrónico que usted es se abona actualmente a en Yahoo

c) Su Nombre del Usuario de Yahoo no su contraseña

d) Las áreas de investigación me dan el Ranchos y el Cabezera son para cada Rancho

e) Los apellidos de investigación

f) algún archivo adicional usted quiere cargado a su carpeta




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03/31/2006---Ranchos Yahoo Closing

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On the 31 March 2006 the Ranchos Yahoo group will cease to function as a
group.

At this point we have roughly 40%-50% of the group members moved over
(this is not good news).

So after that date any messages you post to the email address

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Published by victor villarreal (not verified) – Wed, 2006-03-22 13:45 | Permalink

Comment

Joseph,

What is the current policy about registering new members?. I know of a
person who was rejected when trying to register in the new site. No sense
in registering at Yahoo now either.

Victor

On 3/22/06, Joseph Puentes wrote:
>
>
> On the 31 March 2006 the Ranchos Yahoo group will cease to function as a
> group.
>
> At this point we have roughly 40%-50% of the group members moved over
> (this is not good news).
>
> So after that date any messages you post to the email address
> (ranchos@yahoogroups.com) will not work
>

An interesting link (in Spanish) with some backgroud about Nueva Galicia

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Recently there's been some discussion about Nueva Galicia and whether the group should admit topics other than those related to Jal., Zac. & Ags. (which I think we already do anyway) so I thought this was interesting because it shows some illustrations of what originally was considered Nueva Galicia.

Comments

Published by wixaritori (not verified) – Tue, 2006-03-21 18:15 | Permalink

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Recently there's been some discussion about Nueva Galicia and whether the group should admit topics other than those related to Jal., Zac. & Ags. (which I think we already do anyway) so I thought this was interesting because it shows some illustrations of what originally was considered Nueva Galicia.

http://www.nayarita.com/Compostela/historia_01.htm

Saludos,
Victor

Comment

I found another good link to an eBook (in Spanish) at Cervantes Virtual
Library:
Aztatlán : apuntes para la historia y arqueología de Durangoby Jaime Ganot
Rodríguez and Alejandro Alberto Peschard Fernández
http://www.cervantesvirtual.com/servlet/SirveObras/09190430164146994797…

Contrary to what you may think by the work's title, it has an interesting
section that is very much related to the history of Nueva Galicia: La
Conquista del Occidente de México

http://www.cervantesvirtual.com/servlet/SirveObras/09190430164146994797…

Victor

Comment

I found another good link to an eBook (in Spanish) at Cervantes Virtual
Library:
Aztatlán : apuntes para la historia y arqueología de Durangoby Jaime Ganot
Rodríguez and Alejandro Alberto Peschard Fernández
http://www.cervantesvirtual.com/servlet/SirveObras/09190430164146994797…

Contrary to what you may think by the work's title, it has an interesting
section that is very much related to the history of Nueva Galicia: La
Conquista del Occidente de México

http://www.cervantesvirtual.com/servlet/SirveObras/09190430164146994797…

Victor

what does abuelos seigneron ... mean?

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what does the phrase "Abuelos seigneron fueron padrinos ..." mean in a baptism document. Are they both abuelos and padrinos? I would have attached the document, but I don't see a way of doing that. With the email system it was easy to do. Well, that's progress.

Comments

Published by dpdelgadol – Tue, 2006-03-21 13:47 | Permalink

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Since I can't see the actual handwriting I would guess that the phrase could be "...abuelos se ignoran.." If you think the writing could be the phrase I wrote, the meaning is "...grandparents unknown..."

New poll for ranchos

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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
ranchos group:

Nueva Galicia: Would Opening the Membership up to All of
Nueva Galicia adversly affect your membership in the Ranchos

Comments

Published by wixaritori (not verified) – Fri, 2006-03-17 00:37 | Permalink

Comment

I just went to the old Ranchos site at Yahoo to cast my vote.

Would it affect my membership if the areas of interest for the group expanded to include the neighboring states of Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes? Not at all!

The voting results show divided opinions. Although I respect whatever reasons others may have to think that it affects them, I must admit that I just can't grasp those reasons.

Victor

p.s. FYI, I have already updated my mail account in all the mailing lists that I subscribe to in nuestrosranchos.org. And I'm thinking about canceling my yahoo email account in the near future.

Published by arturoramos – Thu, 2006-03-16 16:15 | Permalink

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Our groups basically covers what was Nueva Galicia. As I understand it, most of the northern territories were only part of Nueva Galicia for a short period of time before they got broken out into Nueva Vizcaya, Nuevo Mexico, etc.

What was left of Nueva Galicia was basically the state of Jalisco, from which Zacatecas was broken out. Then Aguascalientes was split out of Zacatecas and Nayarit was split out of Jalisco.

So basically, other than Nayarit, we cover Nueva Galicia now.

When you say "all of Nueva Galicia" what exactly do you mean?

Comment

Thanks for explaining that.... I know i missed a few messages and I probably missed the definition of it.....

arturoramos wrote:


Our groups basically covers what was Nueva Galicia.  As I understand it, most of the northern territories were only part of Nueva Galicia for a short period of time before they got broken out into Nueva Vizcaya, Nuevo Mexico, etc.

What was left of Nueva Galicia was basically the state of Jalisco, from which Zacatecas was broken out.  Then Aguascalientes was split out of Zacatecas and Nayarit was split out of Jalisco.

So basically, other than Nayarit, we cover Nueva Galicia now.

When you say "all of Nueva Galicia" what exactly do you mean?
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Well I'm not really comfortable in establishing the boundaries of the
Nueva Galicia area. I thought there was some discussion awhile back
about significant parts of the Historical Nueva Galicia being left out
of our research area.



Are we only talking about Nayarit, well if so then consider the poll to
mean expanding to the Nayarit area as well. Weren't there other pockets
or partial parts of estados that aren't included?



Like I said I'm out of my area of confident knowledge.



joseph





arturoramos wrote:

Our groups basically covers what was Nueva Galicia.  As I understand it, most of the northern territories were only part of Nueva Galicia for a short period of time before they got broken out into Nueva Vizcaya, Nuevo Mexico, etc.

What was left of Nueva Galicia was basically the state of Jalisco, from which Zacatecas was broken out.  Then Aguascalientes was split out of Zacatecas and Nayarit was split out of Jalisco.

So basically, other than Nayarit, we cover Nueva Galicia now.

When you say "all of Nueva Galicia" what exactly do you mean?
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Published by wixaritori (not verified) – Fri, 2006-03-17 00:45 | Permalink

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I just went to the old Ranchos site at Yahoo to cast my vote.

Would it affect my membership if the areas of interest for the group expanded to include the neighboring states of Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes? Not at all!

The voting results show divided opinions. Although I respect whatever reasons others may have to think that it affects them, I must admit that I just can't grasp those reasons.

Victor

p.s. FYI, I have already updated my mail account in all the mailing lists that I subscribe to in nuestrosranchos.org. And I'm thinking about canceling my yahoo email account in the near future.

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Fabulous.

I was kind of hoping that as the members vote they would toss in their
thoughts as well.

I'm trying to get a feel for what you all think. I won't be making the
change soon but have been thinking about how you the group members feel
about it. Afterall Ranchos is not the joseph group it is about your the
subscribing members.

everyone elso feel free to give your opinion. we can revisit this issue
when we are fully transitioned to the other side: http://nuestrosranchos.org

joseph

wixaritori wrote:

>I just went to the old Ranchos site at Yahoo to cast my vote.
>
>Would it affect my membership if the areas of interest for the group expanded to include the neighboring states of Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes? Not at all!
>
>The voting results show divided opinions. Although I respect whatever reasons others may have to think that it affects them, I must admit that I just can't grasp those reasons.
>
>Victor
>
>
>p.s. FYI, I have already updated my mail account in all the mailing lists that I subscribe to in nuestrosranchos.org. And I'm thinking about canceling my yahoo email account in the near future.
>

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I don't want to have to deal with a bunch of nonsensical messages if we
broaden the list. Does Nueva Galicia include Chihuahua, too? If so
then let's bring it on. If not, forget it!:) Marge:)
On Mar 17, 2006, at 1:59 AM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

> Fabulous.
>
> I was kind of hoping that as the members vote they would toss in their
> thoughts as well.
>
> I'm trying to get a feel for what you all think. I won't be making the
> change soon but have been thinking about how you the group members feel
> about it. Afterall Ranchos is not the joseph group it is about your the
> subscribing members.
>
> everyone elso feel free to give your opinion. we can revisit this issue
> when we are fully transitioned to the other side:
> http://nuestrosranchos.org
>
> joseph
>
>
> wixaritori wrote:
>
>> I just went to the old Ranchos site at Yahoo to cast my vote.
>>
>> Would it affect my membership if the areas of interest for the group
>> expanded to include the neighboring states of Jalisco, Zacatecas and
>> Aguascalientes? Not at all!
>>
>> The voting results show divided opinions. Although I respect
>> whatever reasons others may have to think that it affects them, I
>> must admit that I just can't grasp those reasons.
>>
>> Victor
>>
>>
>> p.s. FYI, I have already updated my mail account in all the mailing
>> lists that I subscribe to in nuestrosranchos.org. And I'm thinking
>> about canceling my yahoo email account in the near future.
>>

Comment

I TOO WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHIHUAHUA INCLUDED AS ONE OF OUR TARGET STATES.  CHIHUAHUA IS THE  LARGEST STATE IN THE REPUBLIC AND SO MANY OF OUR RELATIVES LIVED ON THE BORDER WAITING TO GET PAPERS, PERMITS TO ENTER THE U.S.    IT IS IMPORTANT AS A BORDER CROSSING STATE,  I VOTE TO INCLUDE THIS STATE.   JUST MY TWO OR THREE CENTAVOS.....YOLANDA MEDINA PEREZ

Joseph Puentes wrote:

Fabulous.

I was kind of hoping that as the members vote they would toss in their
thoughts as well.

I'm trying to get a feel for what you all think. I won't be making the
change soon but have been thinking about how you the group members feel
about it. Afterall Ranchos is not the joseph group it is about your the
subscribing members.

everyone elso feel
free to give your opinion. we can revisit this issue
when we are fully transitioned to the other side: http://nuestrosranchos.org

joseph


wixaritori wrote:

>I just went to the old Ranchos site at Yahoo to cast my vote.
>
>Would it affect my membership if the areas of interest for the group expanded to include the neighboring states of Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes?  Not at all!
>
>The voting results show divided opinions.  Although I respect whatever reasons others may have to think that it affects them, I must admit that I just can't grasp those reasons.
>
>Victor
>
>
>p.s. FYI, I have already updated my mail account in all the mailing lists that I subscribe to in nuestrosranchos.org.  And I'm thinking about canceling my yahoo email account in the near future. 
>
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Yolanda,   You make such a good point, while to date I do not have any relatives from the northern states I do enjoy reading history about all of Nueva Vizcaya, Nueva Galicia, and Nuevo Mexico. And you are correct that it is the largest states and with it is proximity to the border it affects most of us, so I vote with you to include some additional states provided that the new participants bring something useful to the entire group.   For what it's worth I have put in my dos pesos..........Alicia

Yolanda Bobby Perez wrote:

I TOO WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHIHUAHUA INCLUDED AS ONE OF OUR TARGET STATES.  CHIHUAHUA IS THE  LARGEST STATE IN THE REPUBLIC AND SO MANY OF OUR RELATIVES LIVED ON THE BORDER WAITING TO GET PAPERS, PERMITS TO ENTER THE
U.S.    IT IS IMPORTANT AS A BORDER CROSSING STATE,  I VOTE TO INCLUDE THIS STATE.   JUST MY TWO OR THREE CENTAVOS.....YOLANDA MEDINA PEREZ

Joseph Puentes wrote:
Fabulous.

I was kind of hoping that as the members vote they would toss in their
thoughts as well.

I'm trying to get a feel for what you all think. I won't be making the
change soon but have been thinking about how you the group members feel
about it. Afterall Ranchos is not the joseph group it is about your the
subscribing members.

everyone elso feel free to give your opinion. we can revisit this issue
when we are fully transitioned to the other side: http://nuestrosranchos.org

joseph


wixaritori wrote:

>I just went
to the old Ranchos site at Yahoo to cast my vote.
>
>Would it affect my membership if the areas of interest for the group expanded to include the neighboring states of Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes?  Not at all!
>
>The voting results show divided opinions.  Although I respect whatever reasons others may have to think that it affects them, I must admit that I just can't grasp those reasons.
>
>Victor
>
>
>p.s. FYI, I have already updated my mail account in all the mailing lists that I subscribe to in nuestrosranchos.org.  And I'm thinking about canceling my yahoo email account in the near future. 
>
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Yes, we should include the Nueva Vizcaya group since
many of our ancestors went north to start new
settlements and I have seen many common names among
the Nueva Vizcaya groups. Also, many of us have
common ancestors from the north, especially from
Chihuahua.

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California

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castaneda

 

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From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Yolanda Bobby Perez

Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:32
PM

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re:
[Nuestros Ranchos] Where do you draw the line for your relatives and ancestors

 

I TOO WOULD LIKE TO SEE
CHIHUAHUA INCLUDED AS ONE OF OUR TARGET STATES.  CHIHUAHUA IS THE
 LARGEST STATE IN THE REPUBLIC AND SO MANY OF OUR RELATIVES LIVED ON
THE BORDER WAITING TO GET PAPERS, PERMITS TO ENTER THE U.S.    IT
IS IMPORTANT AS A BORDER CROSSING STATE,  I VOTE TO INCLUDE THIS
STATE.   JUST MY TWO OR THREE CENTAVOS.....YOLANDA MEDINA PEREZ



Joseph Puentes
wrote:

Fabulous.



I was kind of hoping that as the members vote they
would toss in their

thoughts as well.



I'm trying to get a feel for what you all think. I
won't be making the

change soon but have been thinking about how you
the group members feel

about it. Afterall Ranchos is not the joseph group
it is about your the

subscribing members.



everyone elso feel free to give your opinion. we
can revisit this issue

when we are fully transitioned to the other side: http://nuestrosranchos.org



joseph





wixaritori wrote:



>I just went to the old Ranchos site at Yahoo
to cast my vote.

>

>Would it affect my membership if the areas of
interest for the group expanded to include the neighboring states of Jalisco,
Zacatecas and Aguascalientes?  Not at all!

>

>The voting results show divided
opinions.  Although I respect whatever reasons others may have to think
that it affects them, I must admit that I just can't grasp those reasons.

>

>Victor

>

>

>p.s. FYI, I have already updated my mail
account in all the mailing lists that I subscribe to in
nuestrosranchos.org.  And I'm thinking about canceling my yahoo email
account in the near future. 

>

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Our groups basically covers what was Nueva Galicia. As I understand it, most of the northern territories were only part of Nueva Galicia for a short period of time before they got broken out into Nueva Vizcaya, Nuevo Mexico, etc.

What was left of Nueva Galicia was basically the state of Jalisco, from which Zacatecas was broken out. Then Aguascalientes was split out of Zacatecas and Nayarit was split out of Jalisco.

So basically, other than Nayarit, we cover Nueva Galicia now.

When you say "all of Nueva Galicia" what exactly do you mean?

Please move me

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I guess you'll have to move me. I'm still on the road (Florida now)
and won't be returning to Wisconsin for another couple of weeks. I'm
in an RV and don't always get a good landline connection or wifi. I

SLC Trip in October

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Joseph,

Could you send me some info on this
trip?  I’ve not yet been able to log onto the sites.

 

Thanks,

Ed

 

From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Puentes

Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006
11:32 AM

To: LosRanchos

Subject: [ranchos] SLC Trip in
October

 



Do folks have an idea who is going to go to the SLC trip in October?



Josie has worked hard to get you information and it would be great if you gave
that trip a serious look if you are thinking you might go. I for one will not be
going as much as I would like to go.



If you think you might be going there is the matter of choosing a topic for
Professor George Ryskamp to speak on during that special session of the
seminar. If I was going I would love to hear a whole session on nothing more
than the Notario Records and how to get a little
better handle on how to research them.



So what do you all think?



joseph




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Hi Ed!
 
Below is the info I posted to the group
earlier........following that is the update I posted a few days ago......please
feel free to contact me if you need more info or if you have any
questions.  I am open to any suggestions.  Would love to have you join
us.......So far I have about 10 persons interested in
going.
 
Thanks!
 
Josie in San Antonio
==========================================================================================================
 
The Hispanic
Conference in Salt Lake City will be held Saturday, October 14, 2006.  I
am expecting to receive the program schedule soon and will post it
then.  In the meantime, I have been informed that the Salt Lake Plaza
Best Western Hotel is now under new ownership. This has caused a price increase
in the hotel rate I had quoted in my previous e-mails. I contacted another
hotel and got good rates there as well.  I am providing both for your
convenience.
 
1.   Salt
Lake Plaza Best Western Hotel changed their price to $82.00 plus tax for a
room for two persons.  (Previously they had quoted $80.00 plus tax for a
room for up to 4 persons.)  Their website is: www.plaza-hotel.com and their
toll free number is: 1-800-366-3684.  You have to mention "Ranchos
Genealogy Group" to get the discounted price since there are a few rooms
reserved for us.  There is NO continental breakfast but they have a nice
restaurant that serves a buffet as well as good menu selections.  Since
October is a very busy time for them I was only able to hold a small block of
rooms from October 8th through October 15th.  You can choose to
stay ANY number of days between Oct 8th - 15th.
 
2.  
Howard Johnson Express Inn offered us a rate of $35.00 plus tax (total $39.32)
for a single queen bed room and a rate of $49.00 plus tax (total $55.05) for a
room with two double beds for 1 to 4 persons.  Go to "Google" and type in
"Howard Johnson Express Salt Lake City" to see their facility as well as
comments made by other guests who have stayed there.  Their toll free
number is:  1-800-541-7639.  Mention my name (Josie Trevino-Trevino)
and "Ranchos Genealogy Group" for the special rate. They offer a FREE
continental breakfast and they are about two blocks from the Library. 
There is a free trolley that passes nearby and takes you to the Library if you
do not want to walk.  This hotel is able to provide rooms for us for any
number of days you might need......provided reservations are made EARLY. 

 
Mickey and I have
stayed at both hotels in the past and like them equally well.  The
convenience of the Best Western Plaza Inn is that it is located right next door
to the Library.  Of course, you pay a little more for this
convenience.  The convenience of the Howard Johnson Express Inn is that you
can have your FREE continental breakfast, (coffee, juice, bagels, cold cereal,
etc) in your room and then either walk to the library or ride the free
trolley.
 

Each person will be
responsible for making their own reservations, travel arrangements,
etc
 
Please let me
know if you are interested in going, the number of persons attending, the
dates you will attend, etc.  Mickey and I are planning to arrive there
Sunday, Oct 8th and leave the following Sunday, Oct. 15th.  The Library is
closed on Sundays so we use this as our travel day.  :-) 

 
I am still
working on finding a little space (somewhere) that we can sit down and visit
with each other and exchange information. Any
suggestions are welcome! 
 
Wouldn't it be great if we could grill some fajitas con
cebolla, aguacate y tortillas and eat our tacos as we talk about our
ancestors???
 
Josie in San Antonio
=======================================================================================================

My friend, Ruth
Gomez Schirmacher from the FHC in Salt Lake City sent me the following
e-mail:
 
"Right now, we are looking at having some
advanced classes on Oct 13th and our regular conference for the local people and
anyone else on Sat. Oct. 14th.  George would be giving the classes Friday.
So I would imagine that your group would want to be here for the advanced
classes that will not be given on SAt. It will be nice to have this extra day of
classes. If your group has a topic which they want George to teach you can
suggest it. Also remember that as we get closer to the conference we will need
to know what films you need so we will have them at the library. Just inform
your group of the dates and have them block them out and we will have more
information as time goes by. It will be good to see you guys again."
 
The classes she refers
to for Friday, October 13th will be given by George Ryskamp.  This
is a wonderful opportunity to learn from the best! 
 
Please let me know if there are any specific topics you
would like addressed so I can let them know.  You can also be deciding on
which film you will be using there so it can be ordered prior to your
arrival. 
 
Thanks!
 
Josie in San
Antonio
 
 

From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ed Davila
Sent:
Friday, March 17, 2006 12:18 AM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ranchos] SLC Trip in
October

Joseph,

Could you send me some
info on this trip?  I’ve not yet been able to log onto the
sites.

 

Thanks,

Ed

 

From:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Puentes
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:32
AM
To: LosRanchos
Subject: [ranchos] SLC Trip in
October

 


Do folks have an idea who
is going to go to the SLC trip in October?

Josie has worked hard to get
you information and it would be great if you gave that trip a serious look if
you are thinking you might go. I for one will not be going as much as I would
like to go.

If you think you might be going there is the matter of
choosing a topic for Professor George Ryskamp to speak on during that special
session of the seminar. If I was going I would love to hear a whole session on
nothing more than the Notario Records
and how to get a little better handle on how to research them.

So what
do you all think?

joseph


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Hi Jonathan!
 
Legado Latino is planning the conference in October. 
I spoke with Sherry Bush in Karen Jepson's office and Sherry provided me with
the details.  Mickey and I hope to see you then!!!
 
Josie in San Antonio

From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mexicanfhr
Sent:
Sunday, March 19, 2006 10:20 PM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Re: SLC Trip in
October


Josie,

Do you know who is planning the Conference in Salt
Lake?

Thanks,
Jonathan

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Josie
T. Trevino" wrote:
>
> Hi Ed!
> 

> Below is the info I posted to the group
earlier........following
that is the
> update I posted a few days
ago......please feel free to contact me
if you
> need more info or if
you have any questions.  I am open to any
suggestions.
> Would
love to have you join us.......So far I have about 10 persons
> interested
in going.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Josie in San
Antonio
>
============================================================================
>
==============================
> 
> The Hispanic Conference in
Salt Lake City will be held Saturday,
October 14,
> 2006.  I am
expecting to receive the program schedule soon and will
post it
>
then.  In the meantime, I have been informed that the Salt Lake
Plaza
Best
> Western Hotel is now under new ownership. This has caused a
price
increase
> in the hotel rate I had quoted in my previous e-mails.
I contacted
another
> hotel and got good rates there as well.  I
am providing both for your
> convenience.
> 
>
1.   Salt Lake Plaza Best Western Hotel changed their price
to
$82.00 plus
> tax for a room for two persons.  (Previously they
had quoted $80.00
plus tax
> for a room for up to 4 persons.) 
Their website is: www.plaza-hotel.com
> http://www.plaza-hotel.com>  and
their toll free number is:
> 1-800-366-3684.  You have to mention
"Ranchos Genealogy Group" to
get the
> discounted price since there are
a few rooms reserved for us.  There
is NO
> continental breakfast
but they have a nice restaurant that serves a
buffet
> as well as good
menu selections.  Since October is a very busy time
for them
> I
was only able to hold a small block of rooms from October 8th through
>
October 15th.  You can choose to stay ANY number of days between Oct
8th
-
> 15th.
> 
> 2.   Howard Johnson Express Inn
offered us a rate of $35.00 plus tax
(total
> $39.32) for a single
queen bed room and a rate of $49.00 plus tax (total
> $55.05) for a room
with two double beds for 1 to 4 persons.  Go to
"Google"
> and
type in "Howard Johnson Express Salt Lake City" to see their
facility
as
> well as comments made by other guests who have stayed there. 
Their toll
> free number is:  1-800-541-7639.  Mention my name
(Josie
Trevino-Trevino)
> and "Ranchos Genealogy Group" for the special
rate. They offer a FREE
> continental breakfast and they are about two
blocks from the
Library.  There
> is a free trolley that passes
nearby and takes you to the Library if
you do
> not want to walk. 
This hotel is able to provide rooms for us for
any number
> of days you
might need......provided reservations are made EARLY. 
> 

> Mickey and I have stayed at both hotels in the past and like
them
equally
> well.  The convenience of the Best Western Plaza
Inn is that it is
located
> right next door to the Library.  Of
course, you pay a little more
for this
> convenience.  The
convenience of the Howard Johnson Express Inn is
that you
> can have
your FREE continental breakfast, (coffee, juice, bagels, cold
> cereal,
etc) in your room and then either walk to the library or
ride the
>
free trolley.
> 
> Each person will be responsible for making
their own reservations,
travel
> arrangements, etc
> 

> Please let me know if you are interested in going, the number of
persons
> attending, the dates you will attend, etc.  Mickey and I
are planning to
> arrive there Sunday, Oct 8th and leave the following
Sunday, Oct.
15th.  The
> Library is closed on Sundays so we use
this as our travel day.  :-) 
> 
> I am still
working on finding a little space (somewhere) that we can sit
> down and
visit with each other and exchange information. Any
suggestions are
>
welcome! 
> 
> Wouldn't it be great if we could grill
some fajitas con cebolla,
aguacate y
> tortillas and eat our tacos as
we talk about our ancestors???
> 
> Josie in San
Antonio
>
============================================================================
>
===========================
> My friend, Ruth Gomez Schirmacher from the
FHC in Salt Lake City
sent me the
> following e-mail:
> 

> "Right now, we are looking at having some advanced classes on
Oct
13th and
> our regular conference for the local people and anyone
else on Sat. Oct.
> 14th.  George would be giving the classes Friday.
So I would imagine
that
> your group would want to be here for the
advanced classes that will
not be
> given on SAt. It will be nice to
have this extra day of classes. If your
> group has a topic which they
want George to teach you can suggest
it. Also
> remember that as we get
closer to the conference we will need to
know what
> films you need so
we will have them at the library. Just inform your
group
> of the dates
and have them block them out and we will have more
information
> as
time goes by. It will be good to see you guys again."
> 
> The
classes she refers to for Friday, October 13th will be given
by
George
> Ryskamp.  This is a wonderful opportunity to learn
from the best! 
> 
> Please let me know if there are any
specific topics you would like
addressed
> so I can let them
know.  You can also be deciding on which film you
will be
> using
there so it can be ordered prior to your arrival.
> 
>
Thanks!
> 
> Josie in San Antonio
> 
> 

>
>   _____ 
>
> From:
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Behalf Of
>
Ed Davila
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 12:18 AM
> To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [ranchos] SLC Trip in
October
>
>
>
> Joseph,
>
> Could you
send me some info on this trip?  I've not yet been able to log
> onto
the sites.
>
> 
>
> Thanks,
>
>
Ed
>
> 
>
>   _____ 
>

> From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com]
On
Behalf Of
> Joseph Puentes
> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006
11:32 AM
> To: LosRanchos
> Subject: [ranchos] SLC Trip in
October
>
> 
>
>
> Do folks have an idea
who is going to go to the SLC trip in October?
>
> Josie has
worked hard to get you information and it would be great
if you
> gave
that trip a serious look if you are thinking you might go. I
for one
>
will not be going as much as I would like to go.
>
> If you think
you might be going there is the matter of choosing a
topic for
>
Professor George Ryskamp to speak on during that special session of the
>
seminar. If I was going I would love to hear a whole session on
nothing
more
> than the Notario Records and how to get a little better handle on
how to
> research them.
>
> So what do you all
think?
>
> joseph
>
>
>
>
>

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Below is part of a
message I received today from Rich and Kitty Cortez regarding our trip to the
Hispanic Conference in SLC in October.  It is very nice of them to offer to
help with the film orders because sometimes the film you need is not there and
needs to be ordered from the vault.  This can take a day or so and reduces
our research time.......

Please let me know if
there are any other concerns that we can help you with.  I am soooooo
excited about this trip to SLC!!!

Josie in San
Antonio

 

<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>

Josie:

If you can find out from those that are
going to SLC in October, what areas
in Mexico that they are researching, then we can check out their film in April
to see if they are already there. We have found that the family search.org site
is not updated enough. There are some films we ordered 2 years ago and looked at
and they are still listed as VAULT which means someone would be ordering that
film instead of another one that they need.

FHC
hours: Monday:  8:00 am - 5:00
p         Tues - Sat 8
a.m. - 9 p.m.

(closed 5
p.m. Tksgiving eve and New Years eve Closed all day Jan 1, July 4th, Tksgiving,
Dec 24-25.)

main phone number 801-240-2331

SLC church main office number 1-800-453-3860 ext
22331

Latin American ext 22881

1-800-453-3860 main library ext 22331

Film window for Latin America ext 22334 Library
attendants Fax #'s:

US and Canada collection attendants
801-240-1924

International coll. attendants
801-240-1929

British coll attendants 801-240-1928

Reference assistance:

US and Canada 801-240-2364

British Isles 801-240-2367

International 801-240-3433

----------------------------------------------------

Notice the 1-800 number above. We usually start
calling a month or two ahead of time so the films will be there for sure.
Always tell them you are from out of state.  It puts you higher up on the list. I order 5
films in my name plus 5 films in my husband's name. Then my sister also orders
films for us. So gather the
groups film numbers that are needed and send
themto me, We can
help you order them.

The first thing we do when we arrive at SLC is make
sure ALL films we ordered are in. If they can't be found in the regular location
nor the overflow location, then we go to the window and re-order them. If this
is done early enough, they could be in by
2:30 that afternoon.

Or if the film you order is not clear, faded, not the
right one, then get to the window as soon as possible to order a better copy or
the correct one.

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I am definitely going to try to make it. I think it will be a wonderful experience and a chance to meet some Ranchos members.

Joseph, I think that is a great idea for George Ryskamp to talk about notario records. I for one have only ever seen a few in Guadalajara but I understand that these were kept in many places, i.e. their collection was not centralized. I know that there are many notarial records in Zacatecas for people who lived in the region where I am concentratin (Colotlan, Totatiche, Tlaltenango).

Estaban Valdes Salazar was also telling me that they are now in the process of organizing and cataloguing all of the municipal archives in Tlaltenango and he believes there are some notarial records there as well.

That would be a great start... how does one find out who the relevant notary would have been and where he would have archived copies of the documents he created?

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Comment

I am definitely going to try to make it. I think it will be a wonderful experience and a chance to meet some Ranchos members.

Joseph, I think that is a great idea for George Ryskamp to talk about notario records. I for one have only ever seen a few in Guadalajara but I understand that these were kept in many places, i.e. their collection was not centralized. I know that there are many notarial records in Zacatecas for people who lived in the region where I am concentratin (Colotlan, Totatiche, Tlaltenango).

Estaban Valdes Salazar was also telling me that they are now in the process of organizing and cataloguing all of the municipal archives in Tlaltenango and he believes there are some notarial records there as well.

That would be a great start... how does one find out who the relevant notary would have been and where he would have archived copies of the documents he created?

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Group:
 
It is going to be a wonderful trip.  Josie and I get lost
in the library....so busy we hardly have time to eat.  I am sure Geo
Ryschamp will speak on whatever subject people want....
 
Josie and I are both looking forward to meeting as many
Rancheros as we can!!!
 
Mickey

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I am tentatively planning on attending in October but not sure. We will be going to Zacatecas at the end of September for Las Fiestas Patronales of Tlachichila and hope to be back by then.   My sister and I are planning a trip to Salt Lake in May and we are preparing for our trip in accordance to Rich and Kitty Cortez' lesson. I don't believe anyone presented the minutes of the March 4 Northern California meeting in Sacramento. Kitty gave a presentation on how to plan and prepare for a trip to the Salt Lake City library. I am so excited that I know I squeak every time I think about it. We are generating an Excel database that can track all the documents we need to find by family group, film number and dates, whether marriage, baptism or other, this after having identified in our database if it's a document found on the IGI or by some other method.   We are lucky to have Rich and Kitty in this group. They are two
truly remarkable and talented people. They are very caring and giving people who not only bring their gifts and talents but their kindness and humanity to all those who come into contact with them.   Thanks Rich and Kitty!!!

MMG8938@aol.com wrote:

Group:   It is going to be a wonderful trip.  Josie and I get lost in the library....so busy we hardly have time to eat.  I am sure Geo Ryschamp will speak on whatever subject people want....   Josie and I are both looking forward to meeting as many Rancheros as we can!!!   Mickey

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Hi!
 
Rich and Kitty:   I will miss not being able to
meet with you when you travel through Texas......as you probably know I will be
playing "Grandma" to a new little one in Switzerland.  Mickey has told me
you will meet with her so just "pretend" I am there too, ok?  
:-)   My spirit will be there!!!
 
<<<<>>>>
 
Alicia  mentions you made a presentation on how to
plan and prepare for a trip to SLC library........would you mind sharing with
the group to help them prepare for SLC in October 2006?  The first time I
went I bought the book "Going to Salt Lake City to do Family Research" by J.
Carlyle Parker and it helped me tremendously. ( I am not suggesting
everyone buy a book )  It helps a lot to be PREPARED in advance and it
saves a lot of time and frustration, doesn't it?  :-) 

 
<<<<<>>>>>>
 
This sounds like a great time-saver!!!   It is
exactly what I need!!!    Can you share with us?  

 

<<<<<<<We are
lucky to have Rich and Kitty in this group. They are two truly remarkable and
talented people. They are very caring and giving people who not only bring their
gifts and talents but their kindness and humanity to all those who come into
contact with them. >>>>>>>
 
I
agree we are extremely lucky to have Rich and Kitty and so many other members of
Nuestros Ranchos that are in this category!  That is the beauty of
genealogy!   We are all one big family! 
 
Thanks
to all of you for sharing all your knowledge, tips, facts, etc. with all of
us.......it is truly appreciated!
 
Lots
of hugs from San Antonio,
 
Josie
 

From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alicia
Carrillo
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 12:10 AM
To:
ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] SLC Trip in October
??

I am tentatively planning on attending in October but not sure. We will be
going to Zacatecas at the end of September for Las Fiestas Patronales of
Tlachichila and hope to be back by then.
 
My sister and I are planning a trip to Salt Lake in May and we are
preparing for our trip in accordance to Rich and Kitty Cortez' lesson. I don't
believe anyone presented the minutes of the March 4 Northern California meeting
in Sacramento.  
 
  I am so excited that I
know I squeak every time I think about it. We are generating an Excel database
that can track all the documents we need to find by family group, film number
and dates, whether marriage, baptism or other, this after having identified in
our database if it's a document found on the IGI or by some other method.
 
We are lucky to have Rich and Kitty in this group. They are two truly
remarkable and talented people. They are very caring and giving people who not
only bring their gifts and talents but their kindness and humanity to all those
who come into contact with them.
 
Thanks Rich and Kitty!!!

MMG8938@aol.com wrote:

Group:
 
It is going to be a wonderful trip.  Josie and I get
lost in the library....so busy we hardly have time to eat.  I am sure Geo
Ryschamp will speak on whatever subject people want....
 
Josie and I are both looking forward to meeting as many
Rancheros as we can!!!
 
Mickey

YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS




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To Members:
 
I will be in touch with Geo Ryschamp.  I will suggest the
"Notario" records.  Are you interested just in Mexico.  Just the
areas...Jalisco/Zac/Aguas  ???
 
In case I have lost you; I am referring to the October trip to
Salt Lake City.
 
Mickey

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Poll results for ranchos

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The following ranchos poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:

POLL QUESTION: From time to time people not from our geographical area express intereste in Ranchos. Here is my answer:

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Comment



Sorry Twice:



1) I'm not saying the regular members of the group are not "high
quality", but what I meant was people who have taken that step beyond
"our" day in and day out level of research and dedicated themselves to
more advanced levels of research.



2) This is more the point. I was doing the new poll about the extention
of the group to include all of Nueva Galicia and somehow someway I must
have accidently closed that old poll from long ago back in Nov of 2005.
I never meant for those results to get distributed to the group "at
this time." Those poll results are available to all including past
polls in the "polls" area of the yahoo group. Sorry they got
distributed and clouded the issue of the new poll.



joseph



ps: 12 days before the Yahoo Group gets closed. Are You Ready? 
(Esperanza, I know you are).



latina1955@aol.com wrote:

Can you define "high quality"?
 
Esperanza


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George Ryskamp in Riverside, California on March 18

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I know this is very late notice -- unless someone already posted the
information and I just missed it.

There will be a Hispanic Family History Seminar at the 5900 Grand Avenue,
Riverside, on Saturday, March 18, 2006.

Comments

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Comment

Thank you Deena;
I just turned on the computer and saw the entry you had. You are very sweet. I sometimes miss things because I am not on or miss the information by going too fast through the entries. It is 2: pm and I couldn't have made it now.
I was very pleased to meet you at the Ranchos meeting, Sister Ortiz

Jose Luis Macias

-----Original Message-----
>From: Deena Ortiz
>Sent: Mar 17, 2006 3:30 PM
>To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [ranchos] George Ryskamp in Riverside, California on March 18
>
> I know this is very late notice -- unless someone already posted the
>information and I just missed it.
>
>There will be a Hispanic Family History Seminar at the 5900 Grand Avenue,
>Riverside, on Saturday, March 18, 2006.
>
>Featured presenters will include Dr. George Ryskamp of the BYU Center for
>Family History and Genealogy and graduate students from the center.
>
>The seminar will begin at 9:30 a.m. and will conclude at 5 p.m. Lunch will
>be served. A donation of $5 per person is requested.
>
>Classes will include "How to Begin," "How to Use Civil and Parish
>Registers," Immigration Records," and "Spanish, Portuguese, and Latin
>American Archives."
>
>Additional classes are "Helping Latin Americans in the Fmaily History
>Center," "How to Find the Location of Your Ancestors and Their Records," and
>"How to Use the Personal Ancestral File."
>
>Courses will be available in English and Spanish.
>
>~Deena Ortiz~
>drortiz@charter.net (new address)
>
>
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I belong to many different forums and groups for many different names
and areas. If I could find a group which specialized in Jalisco,
Guadalahara, Tepatitlan de Morelos I would be happy. I'm selfish.

Films Now Available on Nuestros Ranchos

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I have now added the film database to the new Nuestros Ranchos website.

The functionality is still in the works. Users cannot yet add films to the database themselves, but that functionality is on its way... I will try to get to it this weekend.

Comments

Published by oldcar53 – Fri, 2006-03-17 14:45 | Permalink

Comment

Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
Arturo,
Here are the batch numbers for the films you have for Nochistlan de Mejia sent in by Deena Ortiz.
226726, 1736-1762, M606257
226727, 1762-1779, M606258
226728, 1776-1807, M606259
226729, 1907-1824, M606268
226730, 1824-1841, M606261
226731, 1841-1855, M606262
226732, 1856-1866, M606263
226733, 1867-1874, M606264
226734, 1874-1880, M606265

Thanks for all your hard work, the site is fantastic.

Alicia

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Thank you Alicia for those batch numbers on the films.

If anybody else has a list of batch numbers that you have confirmed are functional either in IGI or VRI, please let me know and I will upload them. Soon you will be able to go in and put in the information into the database yourself.

Also, if you have films at your local Family History Center and would not mind doing an occasional lookup for another member, please let me know so that we can add those films to the database as well, even if they are not indexed in IGI or VRI...

In other words, the film database will serve two purposes:

1. Allow members to do batch searches easily by simply finding the relevant film and clicking to search

2. Allow members to know if anybody in the group has a film on loan at their local FHC that might spare them having to order the film him/herself.

Comment

thanks Arturo,

great feature:

http://nuestrafamiliaunida.com/RANCHOS/BatchNumbers/BatchNumbers.xls

joseph

arturoramos wrote:

>Thank you Alicia for those batch numbers on the films.
>
>If anybody else has a list of batch numbers that you have confirmed are functional either in IGI or VRI, please let me know and I will upload them. Soon you will be able to go in and put in the information into the database yourself.
>
>Also, if you have films at your local Family History Center and would not mind doing an occasional lookup for another member, please let me know so that we can add those films to the database as well, even if they are not indexed in IGI or VRI...
>
>In other words, the film database will serve two purposes:
>
>1. Allow members to do batch searches easily by simply finding the relevant film and clicking to search
>
>2. Allow members to know if anybody in the group has a film on loan at their local FHC that might spare them having to order the film him/herself.

Films Database: Fabulous!!!

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Joseph:

I see it is 3 am... I have not yet gone to sleep since I do not work
tomorrow and usually stay up late.

What are you doing up so early/late? Did you just wake up?

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Published by oldcar53 – Fri, 2006-03-17 14:30 | Permalink

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Joseph and Arturo,   Who can add films to the films list. I have almost one drawer full of films at my local family history center to add to Nochistlan Zacatecas. Should I sumit the film #, film description,  batch # and the applicable year(s) to you so that you can enter it into the database? Or can I do it myself? I know this sounds like a dumb question from a low tech dummy but hey what can I say, I grew up before the age of computers and only began to use them about 15 years ago on a limited basis and within the last 12 years or so it has become a must have household item.   Signed, Dummy in Northern California

Joseph Puentes wrote:



Joseph:



I see it is 3 am... I have not yet gone to sleep since I do
not work
tomorrow and usually stay up late.



What are you doing up so early/late?  Did you just wake up?



What do you think of the film functionality and the tweaking with the
text colors that I did?

======================


wow how did you do this? this is a great tool. If we can get the other
films tied into this that would be great, then again it must be a
tremendous amount of work.

This is a fabulous feature. Everyone should have a look at the "films"
database at the top of the Nuestros Ranchos website.


Thanks Arturo, you are making the group much much better than what it
was before. Thanks for all your effort on our behalf.


joseph


ps: the colors are hmmm, okay, with one tiny exception that wouldn't
matter if it never gets changed. the color difference here is so small
that members might not notice this is a hyperlink:



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Bibliography for 16th Century New Galicia

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Joseph et al:

Yes, the first two documents are at the Library of Congress. I have had a chance to look at them and have been able to build some pretty complex genealogies from the information in those volumes for a groups of families (Escobedos and Covarrubias) going back to the 1400s. They actually have a great deal of indigenous names in them as well...

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hmmm, is that right!



I wonder what these volumes have to say about the Diaz/Dias and
Castañeda's? I would say how about the Rodriguez, but that is in volume
3 I would think.



How much did these books cost? How many pages are given on a typical
entry for some of the names?



thanks for volunteering to do lookups? Or am I getting you mixed up
with the other volunteer Olivia?



thanks,



joseph





MMG8938@aol.com wrote:

Hello Folks!
 
PSSSSSS  - Where and when can we get the 3rd
volume???
 
I have the first two volumes - purchased in Texas
at our state conference.
 
Mickey


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Birria - Thanks

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I want to thank you Francisco, Arturo, Esperanza, and Elvira Z for your
suggestions about Birria. I may have to have a trial run. Most of my
guests will be of the 'gringo' persuasion (and some members of my

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